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14.06.11 16:42

129861 Postings, 7663 Tage kiiwiiHat Gaddafi Raketen in antiker Stadt stationiert ?

Krieg in Libyen: Gaddafi soll Raketen in antiker Stadt stationiert haben - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Wissenschaft
Wird ein Weltkulturerbe zur Waffenkammer? Angeblich hat Libyens Diktator Muammar al-Gaddafi im antiken Leptis Magna Truppen und Raketen stationiert. Die Stadt gilt als eine der am besten erhaltenen des römischen Imperiums.
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14.06.11 18:55
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15130 Postings, 8446 Tage Pate100Fakt ist

das der einsatz bis mindestens September weitergeht. Und sei dir sicher, bis dahin
reicht sowohl das Geld als auch die Bomben!

Fakt ist das dieser Krieg ohne ausländische Bodentruppen zu gewinnen ist!!!
Dauert zwar etwas länger aber G. gehen eher die Ressourcen aus.

Vielleicht ist es dir nicht aufgefallen, aber die Situation der Rebellen hat sich in den letzten Wochen erheblich verbessert. Ich lese übrigens auf twitter jeden tag jede noch so kleine Nachricht von dem Krieg. Wie siehts bei dir aus? :-)
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14.06.11 18:57
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15130 Postings, 8446 Tage Pate100aber in zwei monaten hole ich den Thread hervor

dann werden wir sehen.

Und ich werde wieder Recht haben, wie im Irak oder afghanistan...:-)
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14.06.11 19:01

15130 Postings, 8446 Tage Pate100willkommen in meiner welt

 

mein twitter stream...:-)

 

 

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14.06.11 19:17
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15130 Postings, 8446 Tage Pate100We have sufficient means for Libya campaign: NATO

so lange dieser Krieg politisch gewollt ist(und daran gibt es nicht den
geringsten Zweifel) wird es genügend Geld und Bomben geben.

Hallo denkt ihr ernsthaft die Nato würde sich so blamieren?
lol träumt weiter....
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14.06.11 19:18

15130 Postings, 8446 Tage Pate100mist muss ins Kino

Hängover 2....:-)
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14.06.11 22:56
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129861 Postings, 7663 Tage kiiwiiNato-Schwäche: Bündnis steckt im Libyen-Krieg fest

Luftschläge gegen Gaddafi: Libyen-Krieg entblößt Schwächen der Nato - SPIEGEL ONLINE - Nachrichten - Politik
Im Kampf gegen Gaddafi kommt die Nato nicht voran - Warnungen aus dem Pentagon und der britischen Navy schüren nun neue Zweifel an der Operation. Längst geht es um grundsätzliche, existentielle Fragen: Ist das westliche Militärbündnis überhaupt noch in der Lage, einen längeren Einsatz durchzustehen?
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15.06.11 10:28
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15130 Postings, 8446 Tage Pate100Libyan Rebels Advance West

Video: Libyan Rebels Advance Beyond Western Stronghold Of Misratah Towards Tripoli | World News | Sky News

Libyan rebels have advanced beyond their western stronghold of Misratah towards the capital Tripoli where Nato have resumed their airstrikes.

jeden tag werden Fortschritte gemacht....
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15.06.11 10:37

129861 Postings, 7663 Tage kiiwiistimmt - jeden Tag wird man nen Tag älter

aber ob das ein Fortschritt ist ?
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15.06.11 11:32
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15130 Postings, 8446 Tage Pate100Misrata Map

 

http://www.libyafeb17.com/2011/06/maps-misrata-june-10th-and-11th/

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15.06.11 12:19
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15130 Postings, 8446 Tage Pate100Situation Report:

                                                                                                                                                               
                                                                           

Libya - June 14, 2011
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Executive Summary

 
On June 13, 2011, a report on how to destabilize the Gaddafi government  through a cyber attack surfaced; opposition forces made significant  gains in Misrata and in the western mountains; Norwegian leaders stated  that their nation’s aircraft will no longer participate in Libya mission  after August 1, 2011; Jordan’s King Abdullah remained committed to  providing humanitarian aid to Libyan people; Gaddafi potentially hiding  grad-rocket launchers in ancient Roman UNESCO world heritage site of  Leptis Magna; President Obama announced new guidelines for work  eligibility of Libyan students in U.S.; NTC oil minister stated it will  take nearly one year to resume pre-conflict oil production; Canada  initiates recognition of NTC;  Liberia severs political ties with  Gaddafi regime; and U.S. Senate Banking Committee announced it will vote  on Thursday to allow NTC to access $4 billion in frozen Gaddafi assets  for humanitarian aid purposes.
 
Significant opportunities remain for international policymakers to positively impact the situation in Libya, such as by:

  • Recognizing  the National Transitional Council as the sole, legitimate representative  of the Libyan people until Libyan civilians can hold democratic  elections
  • Unfreezing of  Gaddafi regime assets as a means of facilitating humanitarian relief  efforts in Libya to protect civilians from starvation and to facilitate  peace and stability in liberated areas
  • Formulating  clear and consistent consensus of how to achieve ultimate goal of  removing Gaddafi from power, marshaling all resources necessary to  execute consensus vision, and ensuring that the country is able to  smoothly transition into its pre-democracy phase
  • Providing more  humanitarian aid to the Libyan people in Western besieged cities,  Misrata, Nafusa mountain region, Zintan and refugees at the border
  • Providing pro-democracy fighters with weapons as a means of self-defense and participation in their struggle for freedom
  • Protecting  natural resources, such as natural water reserves and oil fields, along  with natural heritage sites and ancient ruins, which have been  threatened by Gaddafi forces
  • Deploying  fact-finding missions to Tripoli as a means of gaining access to prisons  and facilities reported to house many kidnapped persons; including  Ain-Zara and Abu Saleem prisons
  • Preventing the  creation of a power vacuum by promoting and facilitating the  post-Gaddafi political transition process; investing in systems and  structures that support post-conflict planning dialogue and programs  that build leadership and management competencies
  • Disabling  Gaddafi’s capacity to circumvent UN Sanctions, particularly in the  acquisition of oil through third parties, and repatriation and harboring  of funds through key officials abroad
  • Preventing  foreign-national mercenaries from entering Libya and focusing on  countries that continue to provide support to Gaddafi
  • Widening NATO efforts to the full extent possible under UN Resolution 1973 to protect civilians and oust Gaddafi from power
  • Reinstituting American participation and leadership in the NATO mission

LIBYA SITUATION REPORT – June 14, 2011


The following report provides information from sources on the ground in  Libya (compiled through telephone conversations, news reports, Twitter,  Facebook, and Pro-democracy Libya websites) that will help policymakers  respond quickly to developments in the country.
 
Military Developments: Gaddafi and Loyalists
Summary of News

  • U.S. private  firms studied possibility of destabilizing Gaddafi regime through  computer hacking, provided report to U.S. government (http://tiny.cc/mt9bp)
  • Sassi Garada, one of the first men to join Qaddafi when he took power more than 40 years ago, left Libya through Tunisia (http://tiny.cc/dawsk)
  • ARABIC VIDEO  (Graphic) Gaddafi soldier abuses and threatens to set fire to a  pro-democracy opposition fighter for refusing to praise Gaddafi  (http://tiny.cc/8ui6i)
  • According to NATO, Gaddafi hiding more than five Grad rocket-launchers trucks in the ruins of Leptis Magna (http://tiny.cc/7ca48) and (http://tiny.cc/23ews)
 
Policy Implications

  • Study  indicates that U.S. government has expertise and capability to disable  Gaddafi’s systems and effectively shut his government
  • Gaddafi regime members continue to demonstrate blatant disregard for human rights and international law
  • Additional defection from Gaddafi regime inner circle further isolates Gaddafi
  • Gaddafi tactic  of hiding weapons indicates that the regime likely has many more  missiles and other weaponry than initially thought by NATO
  • The ancient  ruins of Leptis Magna, a UNESCO World Heritage site, are one of the  “best preserved Roman ruins in the Mediterranean, located between  Tripoli and Misrata. At its zenith, in 200BC, Leptis Magna was the third  greatest Roman city in Africa ...after Alexandria and Carthage.” They  serve as a treasure for Libyans and the world and a strategic resource  for the Libyan people, offering an opportunity for Libya to diversify  its economy from one solely based on oil to one also based on tourism
 
 
Policy Recommendations

  • Evaluate  whether implementation of study could hasten the Gaddafi regime’s  demise. If yes, then implement its applicable portions
  • Immediately meet with Garada to obtain valuable intelligence; continue encouraging other “insiders” to defect
  • NTC to  expedite development of a judicial and criminal system capable of  managing the crimes committed by Gaddafi regime forces, and engage  stakeholder community in transparent manner to develop clear criteria  for what constitutes war crimes in Libya;  applied as part of Libya’s  overall constitutional development strategy and processes
  • NATO to coordinate more effectively with opposition fighters on the ground to uncover hidden Gaddafi weapon depots
  • NATO to do  everything within its means to preserve the ancient ruins, and utilize  other military and non-military tactics to monitor Gaddafi regime forces  from entering and leaving ruins; potentially consider using tear gas,  and adopting other non-kinetic warfare to ensure soldiers do not gain  access to reinforcements and potentially succumb to dehydration and  starvation
  • UNESCO to work  with the international community to ensure that ancient sites are not  damaged; and to work with Libyans to strategize and plan for the  preservation of ancient heritage sites in alignment with Libya’s  potential to develop its tourism sector   
 
Military Developments: NTC and Pro-Democracy Fighters
Summary of News

  • Opposition forces make significant gains in Misrata even as regime Gaddafi artillery rained down on them (http://tiny.cc/1puto)
  • Opposition forces liberate town of Al-Rayyana in western mountains (http://tiny.cc/it9p0)
  • British naval  commander predicts that Britain can remain involved at current levels  for an additional three months but will need added funding the continue  efforts beyond that period (http://tiny.cc/ri1tv)
  • Norwegian government officials have decided to extend Norway’s contribution to the NATO-led bombings of Libya until August 1 (http://tiny.cc/j31b1)
  • NATO Insists that Libyan air campaign will yield desired result (http://tiny.cc/fiaya)
 
Policy Implications

  • Gains in Misrata and western mountains are critical as opposition seeks to assert itself throughout Libya, not just in the east
  • British  military funding situation may negatively affect current mission as it  appears cuts have limited military’s ability to engage in anything but  short-term conflicts
  • Norwegian  officials believe the August 1 extension to be the best available  compromise as they are under pressure domestically to end participation  in war
  • NATO remains committed to ending Gaddafi regime’s reign over Libya
 
Policy Recommendations

  • NATO to increase frequency and intensity of air strikes in areas in which opposition forces are engaged in combat
  • British  government to provide necessary funding to military institutions  enabling them to continue high-level participation in Libya mission
  • NATO member  nations work with Norwegian leaders to develop alternatives ways in  which the Norwegians can continue to participate in and support NATO’s  mission in Libya
  • NATO coalition members to remain committed to the mission until Gaddafi dies, is removed from power or leaves
 
Political Developments: Gaddafi and Loyalists
Summary of News

 
Policy Implications

  • African  support for NTC is an incredible development as many of Libya’s  neighbors initially refused to call for Gaddafi’s ouster; Gaddafi  becoming isolated from many who were his strong allies
  • The fall of Gaddafi could potentially have transformative consequences for the bordering African nations
  • Propaganda site is one of many maintained by Gaddafi loyalists to incept misinformation that influences the global conversation
  • Liberia's  refusal to recognize NTC and await political settlement that offers  lasting peace devalues the aspirations of the Libyan people  
  • Gaddafi’s  history of using oil wealth to invest and influence African countries is  significantly waning as more and more African countries sever ties with  him
 
Policy Recommendations

  • International  community continue to support African support for NTC and its ideals;  engage African community during the transition
  • NATO and/or member nations to disable propaganda websites such as http://tiny.cc/nyrnn
  • Liberia to  ensure that the $30 million project to promote local production of rice  in Liberia, and renovation of Monrovia's Ducor Hotel, the largest in the  country and one of the few five-star hotels in Africa, remains at a  standstill until they resume relations with the Libyan people
 
Political Developments: NTC and Pro-Democracy Fighters
Summary of News
 

  • Canada to formally recognize NTC (http://tiny.cc/vlblj)
  • Jordan’s King Abdullah assures NTC-head Mustafa Abdul-Jalil that his government will continue to provide aid to Libyan people (http://tiny.cc/734jx)
  • A leading  Libyan opposition figure states that NTC is well-positioned to lead the  transition to a post-Gaddafi Libya as “a certain degree of organization”  has been established (http://tiny.cc/7g4fl)
 
Policy Implications

  • Canadian  support is very important and may likely influence America to follow  suit; and further adds credibility to the other 11 recognitions, in  particular Western powers such as Germany and Australia
  • Continued  support of NTC allies like Jordan is critical to success of transition  as the humanitarian needs are and will remain significant
  • NTC maturing into a more sophisticated government structure, seems more capable to lead transition than in previous months
 
Policy Recommendations

  • Other western  powers, including America, to follow Canada’s suit, and recognize the  NTC as the legitimate political representative of the Libyan people,  until Libyans can transition to a democratically elected nation
  • Work to ensure that other friendly nations and governments continue to provide much-needed humanitarian aid to Libyan people
  • Democratic  nations to assist NTC in developing institutions and processes necessary  to build a functioning, robust, participatory democracy
 
Humanitarian Needs
Summary of News

  • The Libya  Relief Fund launches a nationwide appeal and fundraising campaign  designed to raise awareness of the human and social crisis unfolding in  Libya and educate the general public on the nature of the conflict, the  Feb. 17 movement, and the Libyan people's struggle for freedom and human  rights and the inhumane repression that followed (http://tiny.cc/px7or)
  • President Obama works to ease working restrictions on Libyan students studying at U.S. colleges and universities. (http://tiny.cc/mp7f7)
 
Policy Implications

  • Libya Relief Fund playing a critical role in building awareness and raising funds to support the Libyan opposition movement
  • Ability of  Libyan students living and studying in the United States to work is  critical as they have no other means to support themselves and their  families without scholarship funds; in addition lack access to health  care
 
Policy Recommendations

  • Support Libya Relief Fund’s efforts
  • Continue to  seek ways to ensure that Libyan students in U.S. are able to support  themselves, and obtain medical coverage until scholarship funds are able  to flow once again
 
Oil Industry Developments
Summary of News

  • The newly  appointed director of the Libyan opposition National Oil Company said  Sunday that he believed it will take ten months to one year after  hostilities end for Libya to restore its oil production to the  pre-crisis level of 1.6 million barrels per day (http://tiny.cc/z0s3e)
 
Policy Implications

  • Relatively  long lead time until Libya will be able to enjoy robust oil revenue  makes critical NTC’s efforts to raise funds through other means to  support its governmental activities
 
Policy Recommendations

  • Allow NTC to  access frozen Gaddafi assets to fund government operations and address  both the physical and psychological humanitarian needs of the people in  the country
  • Provide  technical expertise and equipment to NTC to aid and hasten the  reconstruction of destroyed oil fields and more rapidly resume oil  production
 
Economic Development
Summary of News

  • U.S. Senate  Banking Committee will vote Thursday on a bipartisan bill to distribute  an initial $4 billion in the Gaddafi government’s frozen assets to the  Libyan people exclusively for humanitarian aid (http://tiny.cc/kn0og)
 
Policy Implications

  • $4 billion sum  will significantly aid efforts to provide humanitarian assistance to  Libyan people; will provide the NTC an opportunity to show world that it  can effectively use funds for desired purpose, potentially opening door  for additional distributions of Gaddafi assets
 
Policy Recommendations

  • Other nations to follow U.S.’s lead and allow frozen Gaddafi assets to be used for humanitarian purposes
  • Begin  evaluating potential for allowing NTC to use frozen assets for  non-humanitarian purposes, including funding human capital and  technocrats to facilitate Libya’s constitutional development,  post-conflict planning, national reconciliation, democratic elections  and overall nation building processes
 
                                                                           
                                                                                                           
About The Libya Outreach Group:
Founded in the wake of the Libyan revolution, the Libya Outreach Group  is a global action-oriented group of professional Libyans dedicated to  raising awareness, facilitating outreach, and mobilizing humanitarian  support for the Libyan people.  
Contact Libya Outreach Group:
website: www.libyaoutreach.org
Email: contactus@libyaoutreachgroup.org
Twitter: @libyaoutreach
Phone: 312-731-7463 (Chicago)         708-717-7505 (Cleveland)      202-340-2164 (DC) 
 
 
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15.06.11 14:38

15130 Postings, 8446 Tage Pate100mission in Libya can be completed without the use

2:10pm:

NATO’s mission in Libya can be completed  without the use of ground troops, the commander heading up operations  said on Wednesday in a briefing on an Italian aircraft carrier.

Lieutenant General Charles Bouchard also said that the military  situation in western Libya, where there has been an upsurge in fighting  between regime loyalists and rebel forces in recent days, was developing  “very positively”.

Canadian general said:

“I do believe we can complete the mission without bringing in ground troop.”

2:oopm: A  group of 41 Libyans, 27 from the military and including officers, have  arrived in Tunisia, the official TAP news agency reported on Wednesday,  without saying if the soldiers had defected.

The group arrived on Tuesday at Tunisia’s El Ketef port in the  southeastern Mednine area on the border with Libya, the agency reported.

 
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15.06.11 14:39

15130 Postings, 8446 Tage Pate100progress

 

 

@ChangeInLibya     Mhalwes
       
In 72 hours: FF control 4 more towns in Nafousa mtns. FF advanced ~20km from Ajdabiya to Brega. FF back in Zawiya. #libya #feb17
         

13 minutes ago          via web

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15130 Postings, 8446 Tage Pate100updates

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15.06.11 16:04
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15130 Postings, 8446 Tage Pate100now control most of the Nafousa mtn cities

jetzt kann es endlich Richting Tripoli gehen!
Auf ihr heldenhaften FF....:-) und tötet sie alle, diese miesen Kriegsverbrecher!

 

Nafousa: Aljazeera: Freedom fighters now control most of the Nafousa mtn  cities after the liberation of Ryayna, Awiniyah & others #libya

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15.06.11 18:35

15130 Postings, 8446 Tage Pate100Brega wird auch bald fallen

langsam sind sie reif... Und scheinbar bekommen die Rebellen jetzt auch schwere waffen.


Brega: Freedom fighters are heavily bombarding #Gaddafi positions close to #Brega using GRADs and tanks. Let them taste their own medicine.
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15.06.11 18:40

15130 Postings, 8446 Tage Pate100David Cameron

@ChangeInLibya Mhalwes
David Cameron: "Time is on our side and we will continue the military operations to protect civilians, whatever the time taken." #ThankYou

und die beste Nachricht des Tages, Die Nafousa Region ist bis auf Gharyan komplett befreit.
Die Berber da habens echt raus! :-) Mit jeden Tag der vergeht verbessert sich die Lage der Rebellen und G. wird schwächer. 2 Monate noch!! :-)

Nafousa: Gharyan is a very important city and the biggest in Nafousa. Still not free from G forces and still suffering. #libya #feb17
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15.06.11 18:43

129861 Postings, 7663 Tage kiiwiiLawmakers sue President Obama over Libya

Lawmakers sue President Obama over Libya - Reid J. Epstein - POLITICO.com
Representatives charge that Obama made an illegal end-run around Congress when he approved action against Libya.
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15.06.11 18:46

15130 Postings, 8446 Tage Pate100map of Nafusa

von der Region rede ich. Bis vor 3 Wochen war keine Stadt in den Händen der Freiheitskämpfer.
Jetzt alle bis auf eine! Wie ich sagte, jeden tag gibt es Fortschritte....

 

 

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15.06.11 21:56

15130 Postings, 8446 Tage Pate100Misurata update

On Wednesday 15th June 2011, @LibyaAlHurraTV said:

Misurata update 13-06-2011 11:30 pm

Monday started with the freedom fighters of Misrata sweeping the area of Naima, which lies in the city of Zliten. Following fierce clashes with the mercenaries, the freedom fighters were able to defeat the mercenaries on Sunday and stand up to another attack on Monday. Freedom fighters have successfully repelled the attacks and swept the region for any other mercenaries.

The clashes between the freedom fighters of Misrata and Gaddafi?s mercenaries started in the South of Misrata. The freedom fighters were able to defeat these elements, capturing many of them as well as their weapons and ammunition in the process. The mercenaries bombarded the freedom fighters stationed to the South of Misrata to prevent them from gaining ground; however, the freedom fighters were able to proceed forward to where the mercenaries were bombarding them from and crushed the mercenaries there.

Shortly before sunset, the fuel tank base in the area of Qasr Hamad was targeted with several missiles. Only one missile landed where the tanks were situated causing damage to the power plant. There were no reports of human deaths or injuries as a result of the attack.

In their struggle against Gaddafi, 13 people were injured and two martyred.
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15.06.11 21:58
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69033 Postings, 7676 Tage BarCodePate

im Krieg, Seit an Seit mit der Nato und den US-Truppen im Kampf für die Demokratie in fernen Ländern...

Es rührt einen richtig...
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15.06.11 22:01
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29411 Postings, 6464 Tage 14051948KibbuzimVerwirr ihn nicht

sonst meldet er sich am Ende noch freiwillig und vollendet auf abstruse Art Sacs eigentliche Pläne...
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15.06.11 22:04

15130 Postings, 8446 Tage Pate100Al Jazeera's Tony Birtey reports from near Dafniya

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15.06.11 22:07
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10616 Postings, 5665 Tage rüganerHeute heissen die freedom fighters, morgen

sinds Terroristen......
Ach irgendwie hat man alles schon mal gehört - ein  Nachteil, wenn man über 40 ist.....
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15.06.11 22:09
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33960 Postings, 6031 Tage McMurphyKann mal einer die anderen Threads eröffnen

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