Nach der Kaufpanik ist vor der Kaufpanik

gemeinsam, der einst auch Internet Capital für $4.280 kaufte und sie dann für 3,40 an Libuda verkaufte und seitdem Frust bläst - manche kommen eben aus dem Kindergarten nie heraus und bleiben ewig infantil.  

Ich denke, es ist langsam an der Zeit, senilen Dumm-Dreist-Bütteln den Stecker zu ziehen, bevor sie noch mehr Dumm-Schwatz ins Netz verbreiten!
WO IST DER HAUSMEISTER DES SENIORENHEIMS? BITTE SOFORT AGIEREN!

von einer US-Flugzeugfirma. Die machen jetzt gerade eine Ausschreibung, in deren Zeitphase die Airbusse einen Fehler nach dem anderen melden. Heute ist Rauch im Cockpit eines Airbusses der Billigairline von Quantas.

Wer denkt hier böses?

Gruß Marlboromann  

ud wieder eine Message gegen Airbus

http://www.tagesschau.de/ausland/airbusnotlandung100.html  

Siemens: CEO bekräftigt Jahresprognose
15:59 10.06.09

München (aktiencheck.de AG) - Der Vorstandsvorsitzende des Technologiekonzerns Siemens AG (Profil), Peter Löscher, bestätigte erneut die Gewinnprognose für das Geschäftsjahr 2008/09.

Wie aus einer Präsentation vom Mittwoch im Rahmen einer JPMorgan-Konferenz hervorgeht, rechnet man weiterhin mit einem operativen Gewinn im Kerngeschäft (Energie, Industrie und Medizintechnik), der über dem Vorjahresniveau von 6,6 Mrd. Euro liegt.  

sehr viel früher eingetreten als der Vereinigte Weltuntergang sowie seine Schöffen und Lemminge fieberfantasiert haben:

Foreclosures fall 6 percent in May from April
RealtyTrac: May foreclosures down 6 percent from April; smallest annual gain since mid-2006
Alan Zibel, AP Real Estate Writer
On Thursday June 11, 2009, 12:02 am EDT
      Buzz up! Print Related:Bank of America Corporation, Citigroup, Inc., Fannie Mae
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The number of U.S. households on the verge of losing their homes dipped in May from April, and the annual increase was the smallest in three years.

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{"s" : "bac,c,fnm,fre,jpm","k" : "c10,l10,p20,t10","o" : "","j" : ""} But as layoffs, rather than risky mortgages, become the main reason that borrowers default on their home loans, foreclosures likely will remain elevated this year and into 2010. Many economists expect unemployment, now at 9.4 percent nationwide, to rise as high as 10 percent, and some project it will exceed the post-World War II record of 10.8 percent.

Foreclosure filings fell 6 percent in May from April, according to RealtyTrac Inc. More than 321,000 households received at least one foreclosure-related notice last month -- 18 percent more than a year earlier -- but the smallest annual gain since June 2006.

Despite the drop from April, it was the third-highest monthly rate since Irvine, Calif.-based RealtyTrac began its report in January 2005, and the third straight month with more than 300,000 households receiving a foreclosure filing.

One in every 398 U.S. homes received a foreclosure filing last month, according to the foreclosure listing firm's report.

The mortgage industry has resumed cracking down on delinquent borrowers after foreclosures were temporarily halted by mortgage finance companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and other lenders.

"It would not be a huge surprise to see the numbers level off a little bit at this point," said Rick Sharga, RealtyTrac's senior vice president for marketing.

Banks repossessed about 65,000 homes in May, up from 64,000 in April, due to big increases in several states including Michigan, Arizona and Nevada.

The Obama administration announced a plan in March to provide $50 billion from the financial industry rescue fund as an incentive for the mortgage industry to modify loans at lower monthly payments.

But the effectiveness of the relief plan remains unclear, with questions lingering about how much the lending industry will cooperate. Many housing counselors say it hasn't made much of a difference so far.

After banks take over foreclosed homes, they usually put them up for sale at deep discounts, pulling down prices for other sellers. Nationwide, sales of foreclosures and other distressed properties made up about 45 percent of the market in April, according to the National Association of Realtors.

The supply of new foreclosures had diminished in recent months as banks held off on taking back properties, but it's starting to surge again, said Gary Kent, a San Diego real estate broker who focuses on the foreclosure market.

"Everything I've got that's priced right is just flying off the shelves," he said.

On a state-by-state basis, Nevada had the nation's highest foreclosure rate in May with one every 64 households receiving a filing. California took the No. 2 slot previously occupied by Florida. California's rate was one in every 144 households.

In Florida, one in every 148 households received a foreclosure filing. Rounding out the top 10 were Arizona, Utah, Michigan, Georgia, Colorado, Idaho and Ohio.

Among large cities, Las Vegas led the way with one in every 54 households receiving a filing. Four California metropolitan areas -- Stockton, Modesto, Riverside-San Bernardino and Merced -- were next, followed by Cape Coral-Fort Myers, Fla.; Bakersfield, Calif.; Orlando, Fla.; Vallejo-Fairfield, Calif.; and Miami.  

daß wir vor ner Sommerrallye stehen und der Dax bald auf 6500 stehen wird!  

Mitglieder und die saugen sich gerade mit Puts voll, Hahaha?.

Goldman Sachs CEO Sees Long Recession

Goldman Sachs CEO Lloyd Blankfein said on Wednesday he believed a current upturn in world markets was probably not a full recovery from crisis and said he expected a further long recession.

"I think it's going to be a long proctracted recession," he told an international regulators conference in Tel Aviv.

Addressing a current upturn in markets, he said: "There is no reason to think this is it ... So many things have to be sorted out. Why would this be the recovery?

"The chances are it's not."

http://www.cnbc.com/id/31204205

damals hat Goldman Sachs dem Weltuntergang sowie seinen Schöffen und Lemmingen Goldman wertlose Aktien wie Commerce One ins Depot geleiert, anschließend beim Preis von 150 Dollar Öl-Calls und jetzt verkaufen die an den Vereinigten Weltuntergang sowie seine Schöffen und Lemminge.

Kostolany hatte wahrscheinlich doch recht, wenn er behauptet, dass man schon so blöd sein kann wie Goldman Sachs, um Geld zu verdienen, wenn es noch Blödere gibt.  

damals hat Goldman Sachs dem Weltuntergang sowie seinen Schöffen und Lemmingen wertlose Aktien wie Commerce One ins Depot geleiert, anschließend beim Preis von 150 Dollar Öl-Calls und jetzt verkaufen die an den Vereinigten Weltuntergang sowie seine Schöffen und Lemminge Aktien-Puts.

Kostolany hatte wahrscheinlich doch recht, wenn er behauptet, dass man schon so blöd sein kann wie Goldman Sachs, um Geld zu verdienen, wenn es noch Blödere gibt.  

denn wir gehen jetzt in den USA in die Sommersaison also Feriensaison und vorher ziehen die immer über die Futuremärkte den Ölpreis an. Jetzt reden sie von 85 Dollar. Oh mein Gott!
Danach wird der Ölpreis fallen, damit die Knock-Outs bedient werden und die US-Automobilindustrie viele leicht Trucks verkaufen kann.

Gruß Marlboromann  

US-Erstanträge auf Arbeitslosenhilfe rückläufig
14:43 11.06.09

Washington (aktiencheck.de AG) - Die Arbeitsmarktsituation in den USA hat sich in der Woche zum 6. Juni 2009 verbessert. Dies gab das US-Arbeitsministerium am Donnerstag bekannt.

So sank die Zahl der Erstanträge auf Arbeitslosenhilfe um 24.000 auf 601.000, während Volkswirte im Vorfeld eine Abnahme auf 615.000 prognostiziert hatten. Für die Vorwoche wurde der zunächst ermittelte Wert von 621.000 auf 625.000 nach oben korrigiert.

Der gleitende Vier-Wochen-Durchschnitt verringerte sich um 10.500 auf 621.750 Erstanträgen für Leistungen im Rahmen der US-Arbeitslosenversicherung. Dieser Wert ist weniger schwankungsanfällig und daher aussagefähiger.  

Gasoline boosts retail sales
On Thursday June 11, 2009, 9:08 am EDT
      Buzz up! Print By Lucia Mutikani


Reuters - Sales at U.S. retailers rose for the first time in three months in May as expected, lifted by ...
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Sales at U.S. retailers rose in May and the number of workers filing new applications for jobless benefits fell for a fourth straight week last week, according to official data on Thursday that suggested the recession was abating.

The Commerce Department said total retail sales rose 0.5 percent, the first advance in three months, lifted by strong gasoline and building material receipts. Sales fell 0.2 percent in April.

A separate report from the Labor Department showed the number of U.S. workers filing new claims for jobless aid fell 24,000 to 601,000 in the week ended June 6, the lowest since January 24.

"It looks like we are turning the corner. There is pretty clear evidence that the worst of the labor downturn has passed, but we still expect more job losses," said Zach Pandl an economist at Nomura Securities International in New York.

U.S. stock index futures briefly rose on the reports.

The reports bolstered the argument that the economy's severe recession was close to hitting a bottom, with growth likely to return in the second half of the year.

The sales report raised optimism that consumer spending would probably be flat to modestly lower in the second quarter, instead of falling sharply as expected by most analysts.

Spending, which accounts for about 70 percent of U.S. economic activity, rose 1.5 percent in the January-March period, after a 4.3 percent dive in the fourth quarter.

Still, retail sales were partly boosted by increases in gasoline prices, which could crimp consumers' wallets.

"The tender green shoots could be snuffed out by the frost of higher mortgage rates and gasoline prices," said T.J. Marta, chief market strategist at Marta on the Markets in Scotch Plains, New Jersey.

Gasoline sales jumped 3.6 percent in May after dropping 0.8 percent the previous month. Excluding gasoline, retail sales rose 0.2 percent. Sales of building materials climbed 1.3 percent in May, the biggest advance since April last year, after falling 0.6 percent in April.

Excluding motor vehicles and parts, sales rose 0.5 percent in May, compared to a 0.2 decline the prior month, the Commerce Department said. Vehicles and parts sales rose 0.5 percent after a 0.4 percent fall in April.

Soft spots in the report included sales of electronic goods, which fell 0.5 percent in May after declining 0.9 percent the previous month.

While initial claims for state unemployment insurance benefits declined for the fourth straight week, the number of people staying on the benefit rolls after collecting an initial week of aid rose to a record 6.82 million in the week of May 30, the latest week for which data is available.

It was the 19th week in a row so-called continued claims set a record, the Labor Department said.

The 4-week moving average for new claims, considered to be a better gauge of underlying trends because it smooths out week-to-week volatility, fell to 621,750, the lowest since February 14.

(Additional reporting by Mark Felsenthal in Washington and Richard Leong in New York; Editing by Andrea Ricci)  

bei einer Laufzeit von 30 Jahre - zumindest die Käufer gehen im Gegensatz den Richtern vom Vereinigten Weltuntergang und seinem Schöffen sowie seinen Lemmingen nicht davon aus, dass die Welt in den nächsten 30 Jahren untergeht.

Stocks got a boost after the U.S. Treasury wrapped up the last leg of a $65 billion Treasury auction. The government sold $11 billion in 30-year notes with a bid to cover of 2.68 vs. the recent average of 2.21, and a high yield of 4.72%. The bid to cover ratio, a gauge of interest, is the number of bids received divided by those accepted.  

Household Wealth in U.S. Decreased by $1.3 Trillion

June 11 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. household wealth fell in the first quarter by $1.3 trillion, extending the biggest slump on record, as home and stock prices dropped.

Net worth for households and non-profit groups decreased to $50.4 trillion, the lowest level since 2004, from $51.7 trillion in the fourth quarter, according to the Federal Reserve?s Flow of Funds report today. The government began keeping quarterly records in 1952.

Americans are cutting back on spending as unemployment surges, home prices continue to drop and wealth evaporates, signaling any economic recovery will be slow to develop. The drop in net worth is one reason Americans are boosting savings, blunting the effect of the tax breaks and income supplements from the Obama administration?s stimulus plan.

?It?s going to be very difficult to have any recovery in consumer spending without jobs and incomes recovering first,? said Christopher Low, chief economist at FTN Financial in New York. ?The probability of a debt-financed consumer spending binge like we saw in the last expansion is essentially nil.?

die Richter vom Vereinigten Weltuntegang, ihr Schöffe und die Lemminge arbeiten, könnt Ihr unter der folgenden Adresse gut verfolgen, wo sie das Vermögen im Vergleich zum BIP darstellen. Da haben sie logischerweise den Tiefpunkt der Aktienindices ausgewählt. Inzwischen sind wir einige Woche weiter mit im Schnitt fast 50% Kursanstieg - und da sehen die Grafiken schon ganz anders aus:

http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/06/...rth-off-14-trillion.html

Und die Moral von der Geschichte: Bei so langfristigen Dingen wie dem Vermögen sollte man etwas langfristiger denken und nicht jedem Zacken nach unten und oben nachlaufen.  

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_pMscxxELHEg/SjEvxrcVm-I/...rthGDPQ12009.jpg

die zum Zeitpunkt eines DAX-Standes von 3.500 bzw. entsprechender US-Stände fabriziert wurde.

Ich will den Fabrikanten derartiger Postings nichts unterstellen, aber es kommt mir so vor, als ob 5-jährige die Kellertreppe runtergehen und vor Angst pfeifen. Im konkreten Fall heißt das wohl, dass fast täglich ein Schreiben der Bank eintrifft, dass Puts wertlos ausgebucht wurden. Und das wir so weitergehen.  

More silly crap from freakin idiots?

U.S. Foreclosure Filings Top 300,000 as Bank Seizures Loom

June 11 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. foreclosure filings surpassed 300,000 for the third straight month in May and may hit a record 1.8 million by the first half of the year, RealtyTrac Inc. said.

Job losses and falling property prices are delaying the housing recovery as more homeowners are unable to pay the mortgage or have difficulty selling or refinancing. The unemployment rate climbed to 9.4 percent in May, the highest since 1983, the Labor Department said last week. Prices in 20 U.S. cities dropped 18.7 percent in March, according to the S&P/Case-Shiller home-price index.

Viele Laien kapieren eben nicht, dass es im Wirtschaftsleben nicht auf absolute Zahlen ankommt, sondern auf die Veränderungen. Schon Bob Dylan hat uns doch vorgesungen: The times they are changing.

Foreclosures fall 6 percent in May from April
RealtyTrac: May foreclosures down 6 percent from April; smallest annual gain since mid-2006
Alan Zibel, AP Real Estate Writer

On Thursday June 11, 2009, 12:02 am EDT
     Buzz up! Print Related:Bank of America Corporation, Citigroup, Inc., Fannie Mae

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The number of U.S. households on the verge of losing their homes dipped in May from April, and the annual increase was the smallest in three years.

But as layoffs, rather than risky mortgages, become the main reason that borrowers default on their home loans, foreclosures likely will remain elevated this year and into 2010. Many economists expect unemployment, now at 9.4 percent nationwide, to rise as high as 10 percent, and some project it will exceed the post-World War II record of 10.8 percent.

Foreclosure filings fell 6 percent in May from April, according to RealtyTrac Inc. More than 321,000 households received at least one foreclosure-related notice last month -- 18 percent more than a year earlier -- but the smallest annual gain since June 2006.

Despite the drop from April, it was the third-highest monthly rate since Irvine, Calif.-based RealtyTrac began its report in January 2005, and the third straight month with more than 300,000 households receiving a foreclosure filing.


One in every 398 U.S. homes received a foreclosure filing last month, according to the foreclosure listing firm's report.

The mortgage industry has resumed cracking down on delinquent borrowers after foreclosures were temporarily halted by mortgage finance companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and other lenders.

"It would not be a huge surprise to see the numbers level off a little bit at this point," said Rick Sharga, RealtyTrac's senior vice president for marketing.

Banks repossessed about 65,000 homes in May, up from 64,000 in April, due to big increases in several states including Michigan, Arizona and Nevada.

The Obama administration announced a plan in March to provide $50 billion from the financial industry rescue fund as an incentive for the mortgage industry to modify loans at lower monthly payments.

But the effectiveness of the relief plan remains unclear, with questions lingering about how much the lending industry will cooperate. Many housing counselors say it hasn't made much of a difference so far.

After banks take over foreclosed homes, they usually put them up for sale at deep discounts, pulling down prices for other sellers. Nationwide, sales of foreclosures and other distressed properties made up about 45 percent of the market in April, according to the National Association of Realtors.

The supply of new foreclosures had diminished in recent months as banks held off on taking back properties, but it's starting to surge again, said Gary Kent, a San Diego real estate broker who focuses on the foreclosure market.

"Everything I've got that's priced right is just flying off the shelves," he said.

On a state-by-state basis, Nevada had the nation's highest foreclosure rate in May with one every 64 households receiving a filing. California took the No. 2 slot previously occupied by Florida. California's rate was one in every 144 households.

In Florida, one in every 148 households received a foreclosure filing. Rounding out the top 10 were Arizona, Utah, Michigan, Georgia, Colorado, Idaho and Ohio.

Among large cities, Las Vegas led the way with one in every 54 households receiving a filing. Four California metropolitan areas -- Stockton, Modesto, Riverside-San Bernardino and Merced -- were next, followed by Cape Coral-Fort Myers, Fla.; Bakersfield, Calif.; Orlando, Fla.; Vallejo-Fairfield, Calif.; and Miami.  

In Aktien muss man rein, kurz bevor sich ein Boden bildet - das Trübsalblasen von Stöffen war da sicher, wie ihr seit dem Anstieg von 3.500 auf 5.100 gemerkt habt, nicht gerade ein hilfreiches Signal.

Posted Jun 11, 2009 01:21pm EDT by Aaron Task

As with the broader economy, there are signs of improvement in the housing market - or at least a bottoming process. The latest example came this morning from RealtyTrac, which reported foreclosures fell 6% in May vs. April.
In addition, mortgage applications have risen in recent weeks and speculative buyers are being very active in some of the hardest-hit areas, like Phoenix. Hedge fund manager and blogger Jeff Matthews writes the housing market is recovering faster than you think.  

Wer hat denn im Herbst 2007 bei DAX-Höchständen hier die Leute mit Kurszielen a la 10000 zum Kaufen animieren wollen? Wer hat in 2008 immer noch Kursziele a la 8000 rausgehauen? Derjenige, welcher deinen Dümmlichkeiten folgte, hatte überhaupt keine Asche mehr, um bei DAX 3,5K nachzuschießen.
Oder leidest du etwa schon massiv an Alzheimer?

Leuten, die keine Argumente haben.  

da kannste dann gut sehen, wer sich hier verzockt hat, du selbsternannter Investment-Guru...

Libuda schrieb zu Beginn des Jahres 2008
Daher wird auch Libuda an seiner DAX-Prognose von 10.172 zum Jahresende nichts ändern (wobei die letzten 172 nichts mit rationalem Kalkül zu tun haben, sondern persönlicher Aberglaube sind).
http://www.ariva.de/...en_die_Anleger_t316170?pnr=3909432#jump3909432

Libuda schrieb im Spätsommer 2008
Ich kann Deine Argumentation nicht nachvollziehen - es sei denn, wenn Du das auf den Threads der Weltuntergangsfraktion gepostet hättest. Wie Du offensichtlich noch nicht wahrgenommen hast ist beispielsweise mein Kursziel für den DAX zum Jahresende 8.172 (8.000 davon rational und die restlichen 172 sind ein emotionale Marotte)und dem Nasdaq traue ich noch eine ähnliche Performance zu, wobei ich hier für einen deutschen Anleger noch weitere Gewinn durch die Höherbewertung des Dollars sehe.
http://www.ariva.de/..._Bafin_schadet_Aktienmarkt_t342597#jump4636654

der früher bei comdirect agierte, auf die Spunge helfen: Der brachte viele Anleger bei comdirect um Hab und Gut, als er im Jahre 2003 bei einem DAX-Stand von 2.300 behauptete, dass wir bald bei 1.500 sein würden.

Und der gleiche Bursche jagte im Jahre 2000 Anleger in Werte wie Commerce One, die dann wertlos ausgebucht wurden. Oder in Internet Capital beim Stand von 4.280, die heute allerdings beim Kurs von 6 eine exzellente Anlage sind und über die man auf dem Hot Stock Board allerhand lesen kann.  

ist fur Stöffen charakteristich, dass er nicht auch auf der Ebene der ökonomischen Argumente diskutiert, sondern sein Frust ausschließlich über Personen austobt.

Ob er die Argumentation auf der Ebene von ökomomischen Argumenten nicht beherrscht oder nicht will, sei jetzt einmal dahingestellt.